Defending the Faith

One has posted that he is no longer a believer in the oneness doctrine. We are glad that he has recognized the fallacy of the oneness doctrine, but it is with sadness that we report that he has adopted another doctrine that is just as equally false as the oneness, that is, the doctrine of the trinity. Any teaching that promotes Jesus as being the God of Jesus diminishes the very purpose that Jesus came into the world, that is, to be the the light of the world, by bringing life and incorruption to light for mankind, and to sacrifice his flesh on behalf of sinners.

John 17 is discussed by this former oneness believer, and he points out that the prayer of Jesus shows that Jesus is not his Father. And yet, that same prayer also shows that Jesus is not his God. Jesus prays to his Father, and declares that his Father is the “only true God,” and excludes himself from being that “only true God” by his declaration that he had been sent by the only true God. (John 17:1,3) Jesus further declares that possessed a glory with the only true God before the world was made, and he prayed for that glory to be returned to him again, thus demonstrating that at the time of the prayer, Jesus did not have that celestial glory that he once had. — John 17:5; 1 Corinthians 15:40.

In truth, Jesus, in John 17, is not just praying to his Father, but he is also praying to his God. In other words, if His praying to his Father shows that Jesus is not his Father, then Jesus’ praying to his God shows that Jesus is not his God.

The author points to Revelation 3:12 as an alleged powerful proof of the beauty of the alleged trinity. Revelation 3:12, however, has nothing at all about the alleged trinity, and, in fact, shows that Jesus is not the Supreme Being, since he refers to his Father as “my God.” There are indeed two, and not just two, but three names that Jesus speaks of in that verse: (1) The name of his God, which it should evident that Jesus is not his God from that statement; (2) the name of the city of God, and (3) the name of Jesus. These three names, however, are not said to be the names of the only true God who sent Jesus, nor is there any mention there of three person in the only true God. There is definitely nothing in the verse that gives any thought of the false doctrine of the trinity, much less the beauty of such a false doctrine.

We are next presented with Matthew 28:19,20 as proof of the trinity, and yet, even as those words appear in the texts as we have them, we find nothing there about three persons in one God. The idea has to be imagined, added to, and read into those words. For more information about Matthew 28:19, see:

http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=265

It is alleged that “the Trinity is covered throughout the pages of the Old Testament.” In reality, the trinity is not found at all anywhere in the Bible; one has to imagine that doctrine with a lot of assumptions surrounding that doctrine, and the add those assumptions to, and read those assumptions into, each and every scripture that is presented to allegedly prove the doctrine of the trinity.

Genesis 1:26, for example is cited, and yet we do not find anything at all in the verse about three persons all of who are the only true God. See:

http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=269

http://defending.reslight.net/?p=13

The idea is presented the trinity is found in the plural word “ELOHIM”. Of course, elohim in its plural usage means “gods”, not persons. For a discussion on the word ELOHIM, see:

http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=230

Despite the claim that trinity doctrine is “brought forth from the pages of scripture itself”, in reality, it is not at all brought forth “from” the pages of the scriptures, but it is rather assumed with assumptions added to assumptions, and then those assumptions have to placed over the scriptures to make the scriptures appear to support the added-on assumptions. The trinity does not come “from” the scriptures, it is read into the scriptures.

Yes, the trinitarians do present a staggering amount assumptions placed over scripture and scriptures wherein they claim by those added-on imagined assumptons placed over the scriptures to prove the trinity.  Of course, no matter how much one may imagine, assume, add to, and read the trinitarian dogma into scripture after scripture, it still does not make the trinity a true Biblical doctrine.

We highly recommend that one departing from the oneness camp not fall into another camp that is equally false.